Points to remember when buying a chandelier

This blog has been prompted by a lovely lady that I spoke to several times last week who is currently refurbishing business premises and had purchased several chandeliers and lanterns (not from King’s Chandelier Services Ltd as she did not find us until after her chandeliers were delivered and she realised she had a problem!).  Whilst speaking to her we realised that the problem she was facing was a far more common issue than she or other clients realised and we were able to reassure her that she was not the only person to face these challenges when purchasing chandeliers.

When chandeliers are purchased from ourselves we will ensure that the client has chain that is sufficient to carry the weight of the chandelier together with a ceiling rose ceiling plate hook that is the correct weight loading capacity for the combined weight.  If we are not installing the chandelier we will discuss with the client or their chandelier installer the components they require to ensure that they have everything required to install their chandelier, however not all chandelier suppliers offer this service and if you purchase from a private source it may only be the chandelier itself that is sold, not the chain and fixings.

We have found, as in the case of our client last week, not everyone is aware of what is required for the installation of a chandelier and so we thought a blog offering some guidance may be useful to potential (and existing) chandeliers owners.

When you decide that you wish to purchase a chandelier, lantern etc for your property there are the standard things you need to consider as you would for any lighting: is it suitable for the room and the rooms purpose, ensuring you purchase the right style and size – remember you also need to consider the depth of the chandelier and how low you wish this to hang in the room, if you have high ceilings you may want to have the chandelier hanging lower than in a standard room and if your property has low ceilings you need to take this into consideration as well.

Once you have chosen the style and size chandelier and make your final selection this is when you need to think about how you are installing the chandelier and what components you need.

The first thing you need to find out is the weight of your chandelier, a light weight chandelier is relatively easy to install but heavier chandeliers need more consideration.  Are you going to install the chandelier yourself or have it professionally installed?

If you are using a professional company to install your chandelier you will need to discuss the components that you require and whether they are going to supply these for you or if you need to source these yourself.

Questions to ask yourself:-

  • Does your chandelier come with existing chain?  If yes is it the correct length for your requirements? chandelier chain
  • If you chandelier does  not come with chain or if you wish to extend the chain you need to know the weight of the chandelier.  To work out which chandelier chain to purchase you need to remember that the chain needs to take its own weight as well as that of the chandelier so please if the chandelier weighs 19 kgs do not purchase a chain that has a maximum weight loading of 20kg go for a chandelier chain that takes somewhat more – better to be safe than sorry.
  • Please note when choosing chandelier chain from King’s Chandelier Services Ltd we are concerned with the weight loading capability rather than how pretty it looks! chandelier chains
  • Does your chandelier come with a ceiling rose and chandelier fixing hook? If yes remember to weight load test before you suspend your chandelier.  If no again you need to know the weight before ordering, our chandelier ceiling roses and ceiling plate hooks detail their weight loading capabilities, if your chandelier is heavier than those please read our blog Frequently asked questions – installing my chandelier
  • Does your chandelier come with a fixing hook or loop on the actual chandelier, if not you will need to determine the thread size of the threaded rod running through the centre of the chandelier.  Dependant on the weight of the chandelier as to which components you would need to use for us to assist in choosing a part from our website we would recommend emailing us photos and details of weight etc to info@kingschandeliers.co.uk
  • Finally one other item to consider, that is often over looked, does your chandelier need additional electrical cable.  Many chandeliers are sold with minimal electrical cable and if you are having a considerable drop from the ceiling to the chandelier you may need to extend the electrical cable.  We have a wide selection of 3 core and 2 core electrical cables suitable for chandeliers, lanterns and lights braided electrical cables

One final tip for this blog, as I get asked this regularly – how do I weigh my chandelier – if you can lift the chandelier weigh yourself and then weigh yourself holding the chandelier and take one away from the other and this will give you an estimated weight of your chandelier (dependant on how accurate your scales are); then add a bit onto the weight to allow for inaccuracies due to using domestic scales.  If you cannot lift the chandelier we would assume you are using a professional chandelier installation company and they will have the equipment needed to weigh this on your behalf.

We hope you found this blog of interest and if you have any suggestions for future blogs please email us at contact us

 

 

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Frequently asked questions – installing my chandelier

We have covered previously in our blogs about the components you need to purchase to hang your chandelier and in that post we explained some of the things you had to take in to account, so please read through our other posts as these will go hand in hand with this one.

One of our most frequent questions we are asked is “what hook do I need and how do I install the chandelier?”

For the very light chandeliers and light fittings we have a range of hooks and fittings, each displaying the maximum weight load they can take – please take these calculations seriously they are for your assistance BUT ALWAYS load test before installing.

For chandeliers and light fittings over 5kg’s we would recommend the use of your ceiling joists to help accommodate the weight of the chandelier.  For chandeliers up to 20kg open and closed bolt loops are appropriate, please see links below, as the weight of the chandelier increases so to does the size of the bolt loop and so as you increase over  20kgs you will move onto the heavy duty open and closed bolt loops.

Remember – you do not just weight load before installing but intermittently during the installation of the fixings to make sure they are correctly secured.

On occasion you may come across difficult to access ceilings i.e. under floor heating or concrete floors, whilst we cannot give detailed assistance as site visits have not been completed we may on occasion be able to source the specialist fixings required.

Once having installed via the joist you will want to ensure that the ceiling entry point is disguised and for this you will need one of our metal ceiling roses with strap or ceiling domes.  You will need to customise your ceiling rose/dome by enlarging the centre hole to accommodate your chain and cable.

http://www.kingschandeliers.co.uk/ceiling-roses,-ceiling-plate-hooks/

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Cleaning your chandelier this weekend?

Here are some quick tips if you are thinking of cleaning your chandelier this weekend.

Before you start make sure that you have turned off the electric supply to your light fitting and that everyone knows that you are working on the chandeliers.

Put down some dust sheets or something similar just in case you drop a piece and if possible move other furniture out of the way.

DO NOT turn the chandelier move your ladder around the chandelier to clean it, turning the chandelier may unscrew it!

If you are not using a commercially available chandelier cleaning solution then clean your chandelier crystals in the same way you would clean your crystal glasses, warm soapy water.

If you are undressing your chandelier (taking all the crystals off) to clean them away from the chandelier take some photos to assist when you come to redress the chandelier (rehang the crystals).

DO NOT put your chandelier crystals in the dishwasher!

Selling Internationally

Following the recent Brexit vote and a telephone conversation today with one of our European customers we would like to assure all our European and International customers, new and old, that at King’s Chandelier Services Ltd we continue to sell overseas and are happy to do so.

If you have any questions or queries please do not hesitate to contact us by telephone or email.

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Free Postage on Selected items!

At King’s Chandelier Services we listen to our customers and their suggestions and to our own experiences of buying online.

We have always maintained that there will be no minimum order value on our websites and offer bulk discounts on application and  have reviewed our postage tariff’s.

As we all know Royal Mail has introduced price increases again this year but we are not increasing our postage charges in fact we are introducing free postage on selected items!

These items display a Free Postage banner for easy identification, when combining with products that are applicable to a postage charge postage is only charged for these items not the free postage items.

Be assured at King’s Chandelier Services Ltd, whether purchasing from our on-line store, engaging our chandelier restoration team or having your chandeliers cleaned we offer high quality products and good customer service – visit our website http://www.kingschandeliers.co.uk for more details

Brushed Antique – exclusive range

BRUSHED ANTIQUE COLLECTION

The brushed antique collection is a hand finished range exclusive to our company, hand finished in our workshops.  As a bespoke collection all items are suited to one another but no 2 sets are an identical finish.

The Collection currently comprises of the items in the photo with component details below, other items are being added to the collection and our website will be updated accordingly:-

Brushed antique collection:-

Cordgrip B22 lamp holder:
100mm Ceiling rose: 
100mm Ceiling rose and hook: 
100mm Ceiling rose, hook and chain: 
100mm Ceiling rose and B22 lamp holder: 
100mm Ceiling rose and B15 lamp holder: 
100mm Ceiling rose and cordgrip: 
Male to female cordgrip: 
100mm Ceiling rose and closed hook:
Switched lamp holder and hook: 
Switched lamp holder cordgrip: 
Cordgrip tag and nut: 
Fixed hook and plate: 
Switched lamp holder only: 
B22 lamp holder:
B15 lamp holder only:
Closed s hook: 
65mm dome cap only: 
65mm dome and hook: 
65mm dome and cordgrip:
65mm dome and B22 lamp holder: 
65mm dome and B15 lamp holder: 
Closed hook 10mm female: 
4 1/4 inch gallery 28mm centre hole: 
3 1/4 inch gallery 28mm centre hole: 
3 hook ceiling plate: 
solid hook + 1/2 metre chain: 
2 1/4 inch gallery 28mm centre hole: 

Full product details available on our website http://www.kingschandeliers.co.uk or email info@kingschandeliers.co.uk for further details

Lighting accessories

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Looking at our website you will be aware that at King’s Chandelier Services Ltd we specialise in the care and restoration of antique and vintage chandeliers, either undertaking the restoration on a clients behalf or supplying the vintage parts for a clients own chandelier restoration (a task that can become a labour of love rather than a daunting task) but you may not have realised that we stock a large comprehensive range of lighting accessories.

The range of lighting accessories compliments the chandelier restoration projects but covers much more to include everyday lighting maintenance and repair.  Visit our Spares, Parts and accessory pages, http://www.kingschandeliers.co.uk/chandelier-parts-and-accessories.html to view the various categories.